New non-contact technology increases knowledge established by Cleve Backster
Cleve Backster's discoveries inspire us. His book Primary Perception 2003, and more, describes foundations of our interests within this article
A book by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird The Secret Life Of Plants 1973 highlights work by Cleve Backster. A new technology works without electrical contact. Insulation is between the sensors and the plants.
Experiments to continue...
Scientific method has a difficulty with anything less
mechanical than Newtonian physics: If spirituality is involved, then the
experiments work if the experimenter and subject are able; and if only
Newtonian physics is involved, then miracles like being able to move one's
own finger, by wanting to, would be impossible. On these pages we talk about
things that might seem to have nothing to do with science; it's future
science, for after people accept spirituality as real and allegedly "real"
things as spiritual.
Scientific method has a difficulty with anything less mechanical than Newtonian physics: If spirituality is involved, then the experiments work if the experimenter and subject are able; and if only Newtonian physics is involved, then miracles like being able to move one's own finger, by wanting to, would be impossible. On these pages we talk about things that might seem to have nothing to do with science; it's future science, for after people accept spirituality as real and allegedly "real" things as spiritual.
The details here, of this materials analyzer, having become public knowledge, now can't be as claims for patent applications The notes here are to help anybody on a similar path. Circuit details and the explanations, from original concepts/hypotheses to theories proven by reliable methods, have evolved since the late 70s. These will be the subjects in later patent applications.
Copyright © 2007-2011 David Beale & Steven Guth
The instrument's aerials are close to a geranium cutting.
sensor pads are alongside the cutting's stem. A third pad is in the soil. The thin dark wire is from the optional external mains power
The many knobs are to fit the size and range, of the resonances, to the signal processing; because the inventor did not know in advance what these ranges would be.
The plant's responses began as a series of strong very obvious deviations from the slightly wobbly base-line levels. These intensities dropped progressively to zero during subsequent passes over the same place.
The little round cardboard cheese-box was supposed to be on the spot where two ley-lines cross. It seems to have been knocked out of place. The plant responded when passing over the approximately North-South (slightly South-West) line that is parallel to the walls of the house (not exactly where the copper cable is). The cable was part of another experiment, to see if it affected the ley-line.
their own, these
instruments use specific aerials and sensitivity adjustments for
Ley lines, water and ground fractures. Then they output uniform standing
constant indications. Plants monotonically reduce their responses. The
tree-related levels also reduced relative to the sunset.
We didn't check whether the plant responded to the East-West line because that cutting (as others) weakened its responses monotonically to zero.
Steven says "plants are like cats". I (David ) couldn't make a plant respond to any energy-type transmissions such as mammals respond to, and I didn't know what to do instead.
This photo shows Hilda's favorite tree. It arouses
special feelings. It did
respond to Steven's communication, similar to the plant;
but although those patterns were the same, each set took longer.
Hilda's tree only responded to her touch, as she does, as a caress any time she is nearby.
Her tree's responses, to Hilda, were as fast and as strong as the cutting's response to the energy-line.
The inexpensive meters happened to be at hand. A Pico digital-oscilloscope and a
laptop easily produce graphical recordings.
The same technique works as a non-destructive remote materials analyzer. It gets data signatures, of materials and situations, from the variations of two voltage amplitudes, their mutual frequency and their phase.
We all tried but only Steven got obvious changes on the meter.
Noise background changes were the same without a plant being nearby.
Noise signals had no variations in their patterns until sunset when connections to Hilda's tree showed a monotonic baseline DC decline.
Controls were applied for preliminary observations of the instrument; more often and longer than practical for plant responses.
|When taking this photo we didn't note which
readings were on the pad. We had no time for taking photos
during the person-plant test times. The figures are unclear but look
like non-scaled baseline readings, done while looking for possible
patterns. They have no sequences highly above a base line.
During the interactions, we had only enough time to record one of the two voltage readings of the two-channel resonance.
Experimental readings were taken only from amplitudes of the two resonant systems in the analyzer.
This type of materials analysis includes phase and frequency
characteristics. For these GSR equivalent preliminary studies, phase and
frequency were not recorded, because of setup time limitations.
When these instruments' outputs are processed by a computer, then patterns of values, of channels' amplitudes, frequency and phase, show as signatures unique to specific materials.
experiments were for testing a non-contact wireless static field
resonant communications system. The data were obvious and reliable. The
evidence stood out repeatedly, often, during the three
days available in April 2007.
I couldn't get any meter deviations; but I observed Steven; and believe interacting with plants can't be faked. Plants seem to interpret only genuine emotions/intentions while ignoring manipulative psychological ploys. Communications happening are obvious and different from baselines observed while becoming familiar with intermittent smaller background peaks/artifacts. When someone can't do it that also is reliably obvious.
A key to this type of research seems to be to do the opposite of treating an experimental subject as if it is stupid or an object. I believe all living beings and situations, including plants are affected by intentions and positively by honesty,.
|To some extent all people and animals notice
attempts to manipulate them. Some tolerate deception by minimizing
damage. Plants perhaps respond, to manipulative intentions, by ignoring or not
noticing --- like cats?
Cats are clever enough to avoid rewarding unacceptable behaviors, like plants?
The plant was in the room on the left. The
meters are on the beige foot-rest at the bottom right.
Between the two rooms, long connecting wires were for isolating the plant in the perceptions of the person observing the meters.
The geranium cuttings ignored everybody except Steven who cut them from the mother plant. He kept the promise to let them grow in the garden afterwards.
Shopping on the kitchen bench has nothing to do with these experiments.
This is the latest prototype. It started out to be an improved version of
the analyzer that responds exclusively, strongly and unambiguously
to surface rocks and soil, in fractures (small faults) that are above large amounts of deep high quality water.
This type of instrument works well as a "water finding" device; an electronic dowsing instrument -- but the operator does not need to be able to dowse.
It's ability happens because it is a general purpose passive analyzer that can be adjusted to suit most materials' ranges of signature responses.
The instrument adapted to test successfully what we
may describe as the life-harmony/health of plants, soil, fruit and
vegetables, and for monitoring bacteria cultures in solutions.
The aerial sensor connections are topmost. Other connections are for external meters; others are outputs of signals, for the computer interface.
The meter is used when dowsing and to calibrate the instrument manually, to bring the processed signal measurements into the range of the meters, when not using a computer.
This style of meter can also serve as a clear,
reliable indicator for being over underground water, fractures
and over ley lines (dragon lines). The type of work determines the type of aerial sensors and the sensitivity settings to cover the ranges of various signal levels.
Plants, bacteria and life-compatible materials, all change their characteristics such as conductivity, a host of magnetic effects, and their dielectric constant. They concentrate/dissipate, relay and conduct biologically-compatible resonant signals of extraordinarily low intensities.
|This is a photo of Hilda when she touched the tree (some branches hang down like a Willow). The long wires were to get us in our thoughts away from the tree.||We were considering that some might think of distance-dependent electromagnetic energy (such as brainwaves) as a glib way to explain away the phenomena for which Cleve Backster proved irrefutable reliable evidence.||David Beale had made GSR, electromyography and "brainwave" sensing instruments, using his new concepts including those for signal processing; so the monitoring of interactions between living beings has been a natural application for his materials analyzer to adapt to.||
The ground-earth-common contact is clipped onto the red clip and buried in the
pot's soil. The soft insulated (slightly conductive inside) pads are
than those shown in the photo of the latest versions. The pads are kept in place around the cutting's stem, by sticky paper, in this example.
The cable wasn't connected to earth/common; just placed on the ground.
have never had any effects on the line that all dowsers and others have observed. The latest
instruments, without plants, reacted routinely and with standing levels (not surges as plants respond with).
The instruments reacted exclusively to this line and its parallel equivalent
further East (left of the cable in this photo). These instruments, usually with different aerials and settings,
react equally to a variety of "lines" needing accurate concepts to be formed, by a human dowser,
to discriminate between the various lines the rods respond to.
The aerial sensor pads are typically soft slightly
conductive foam plastic sealed by an ordinary office laminating machine.
The cables are extremely floppy (multistrand) so as to quickly stabilize their positions relative to the plant.
Connecting actually to "earth" makes no difference. The actual conduction is zero DC but variations travel strongly through some materials.
The contact is believed
to be a form of energy parallel to static fields, so electronics makes contact by both
normal longitudinal strength variations.
I also believe that parallel longitudinal cellular-communications fields interact at infinite speed --- faster than the speed of light.
The strength of the changes, if they are just to be estimated in static-electricity variation terms, is fractions of a microvolt (static) audio-frequency oscillations.
Steven tried influencing water but the flexibility of the floppy-wire
connections caused larger signals by the wires,
under gravity, changing their positions. If the water did change, the changes were masked by movement artifacts.
Water has huge variations, for instruments of this type, when they are adjusted to analyze water.
Aside from solutes and pollution variations in water, even pure water varies in many ways
including crystal structure, clustering, surface tension and ionization.
Our experiments confirm a fact hundreds of thousands of people have
already shown, with instruments; and millions of people know, who care about
plants and care for plants: Plants and people interact with each other.
Our experiments confirm a fact hundreds of thousands of people have already shown, with instruments; and millions of people know, who care about plants and care for plants: Plants and people interact with each other.
Language-independent concepts, feelings and knowledge; universal aspects of
life; all are topics of virtual conversations with plants. If plants made noises
and moved as quickly as animals move, we'd notice more similarities with plants
as with people and
Language-independent concepts, feelings and knowledge; universal aspects of life; all are topics of virtual conversations with plants. If plants made noises and moved as quickly as animals move, we'd notice more similarities with plants as with people and animals.
Steven Guth often says plants are "like cats". He also says that we
easily understand dogs, find cats more difficult...and "bears are reputed hard
to understand and predict because their faces show no emotions".
Steven Guth often says plants are "like cats". He also says that we easily understand dogs, find cats more difficult...and "bears are reputed hard to understand and predict because their faces show no emotions".
An experiment Steven did in Japan was particularly fascinating. It
underlined the "cat concept of plant emotions". Stephen reported: "A group was
shown the use of the analyzer wirelessly connected to a lone tulip. They were
asked to transfer kindness and love to the tulip. Nothing clear happened.
An experiment Steven did in Japan was particularly fascinating. It underlined the "cat concept of plant emotions". Stephen reported: "A group was shown the use of the analyzer wirelessly connected to a lone tulip. They were asked to transfer kindness and love to the tulip. Nothing clear happened.
the group went back to their conference grouping and the tulip gave a huge jump
of, lets say 'relief' ! Imagine a cat being watched by a dog who could kill
it... Imagine a tulip looking at a group of plant 'lovers' who could-would
instantly pluck it...The dog goes away and the cat gets up and stretches, flicks
its tail and walks away...The plant sighs in peace."
Then the group went back to their conference grouping and the tulip gave a huge jump of, lets say 'relief' ! Imagine a cat being watched by a dog who could kill it... Imagine a tulip looking at a group of plant 'lovers' who could-would instantly pluck it...The dog goes away and the cat gets up and stretches, flicks its tail and walks away...The plant sighs in peace."
Now, because this analyzer is non-invasive, the plant has no fear responses
to the experimental situation. The electrodes are NOT touching the plant; there
is no electrical connection. A few resonant sub-microvolts of signal strength
are present as tiny variations on whatever static electric fields might be
present, from time to time, on flexible insulated postage-stamp size pads.
Inside each pad, each "aerial" sensor, is slightly conductive lightweight
plastic foam. That doesn't worry the plants!
Backster's experiments included monitoring interactions with an "owner
bonded" plant; a masterpiece of research. The plant registered responses to its
loved owner, at a distance. Such experiments were repeated (by others) by
killing rabbit kittens in a nuclear submarine under the Arctic ice, to see how
the mother, in Boston, responded.
Backster's experiments included monitoring interactions with an "owner bonded" plant; a masterpiece of research. The plant registered responses to its loved owner, at a distance. Such experiments were repeated (by others) by killing rabbit kittens in a nuclear submarine under the Arctic ice, to see how the mother, in Boston, responded.
There are plenty of true animal-companion and human
stories; clear, obvious and perfectly believable; and they didn't need
There are plenty of true animal-companion and human stories; clear, obvious and perfectly believable; and they didn't need instruments.
We can see many animal and plant similarities. We intend to continue with
these interesting observations.
We can see many animal and plant similarities. We intend to continue with these interesting observations.
The materials analysis machine David devised uses very low levels of static field resonant variations. It monitors responses from living entities and some life-compatible materials. It uses non-invasive wireless connections to observe changes in nearby material and living beings.
Steven Guth suggested adapting an instrument for emulating the work of Cleve Backster. David Beale made an instrument, circa 2007, to duplicate wirelessly the tasks previously done with probes affixed with ‘conductivity paste’ to living plant tissue - usually leaves - by Clive Backster.
The new method can be described as an analyzing proximity detector. Backster’s Galvanic Skin Response (GSR) pads made actual electrical contact with the subject; David’s new instrument is totally noninvasive .
The instrument uses sensing pads as aerials (see photos). These are insulated on the outside and slightly conductive inside. Many variations were tried. All are non-invasive. They use minute audio-frequency electrostatic field changes (alternations – changes to DC). The audio-frequency field variations are similar in size to distant communications radio signals.
The sensor pads in these photos were laminated with a simple office A4 paper laminator.
In the photos, the pads are gently in place alongside the geranium cuttings and the tree trunk. The voltage readout for this version was a pair of digital multi-meters. The output selected was variations to one of the DC levels, indicating variations in the strength of the resonance, relative to a nominal DC baseline.
A later, more resent version of the instrument (photo directly above) has its own front-panel meter for either of its two waveform amplitudes, their frequency and phase relationship, as well as AC and DC outputs for digital meters and oscilloscopes.
For these Materials Analyzer instruments, a computer oscilloscope is usually used, with a laptop computer and appropriate averaging-analyzing software.
Outputs, of the specially made GSR instrument, were included for the instrument to be read using ordinary DC meters.
These wireless GSR instruments draw typically under 1mA including processing into DC of the frequency of the resonances (Hz) the two AC Voltage measurements, and their timing relative to each other (Phase). They could be made more economically and easily by using modern components, which would use about the same power as a digital watch.
The instrument was the first materials analyzer of this type to be used for sensing changes in living plant cuttings and a tree when placed into interactions with people. Steven Guth consistently caused the plant to change outputs on DC millivolt meters, hugely above the stable base-line.
The DC levels were each taken from an AC signal rectified and compared with a matching DC level to get a scale-compatible baseline. Then the differences, between the reference and the variables, were amplified and sent as DC voltage, into simple cheap multimeters – as in the photos.
A plant cutting also interacted with the Earth’s energy field lines often called "ley" lines. Versions of this instrument also interact with such “dragon” or “Earth Grid” lines, very strongly; depending on the type of sensing aerials and how the instruments are adjusted.
Interesting, the plant had ceased responding to the known ley line after the fourth pass in the trolley. The first response was the strongest, with gradual decay as the experiment continued. This shows the difficulty of setting up experimental methods; and why we tended to see plants as closer to cats than to chemical reactions in a test tube. Consider waving a fish in front of a cat, and after about four passes the cat gets bored with the fish stimulus and the uncooperative experimenter.
In general, the responses were very noticeable – huge jumps in meter
readings compared with a stable, small, wobbling low-frequency noisy
In general, the responses were very noticeable – huge jumps in meter readings compared with a stable, small, wobbling low-frequency noisy baseline.
Simple band-pass filtering and integration was used. No signal
averaging was needed!
So far instruments of this type have responded with types of lines that can be dowsed … including shallow underground water, aquifers, fractures and deep artesian water.
The present instruments have not yet been able to be adjusted to respond to Hartmann lines, perhaps because their aerial sensors are intended to relate to only static field levels. Previous instruments responded very strongly, to what the inventor believes are Hartmann lines. They had aerial sensors that depended also on inductive-magnetic effects additional to electrostatic field interaction.
Connections, of this type with the plants, use longitudinal microvolt variations (AC) to whatever static field levels are present. These experiments' aerials were insulated slightly-conductive plastic small flat (postage-stamp size) pads (see the photos).
In parallel with the bio-compatible signals, I believe, are other sets of biological signals that are compatible with static fields so might often accompany static field variations. Magnetic variations were not used, for reasons valid technically and for ethical considerations.
I contend that communications with other planets shall be done using systems which communicate instantly. The speed-of-light-limited electromagnetic radiation spectrum is impractical because it can only receive signals that have happened too long ago to be worth responding to. If somebody sent us a message a long time ago, they'd either be wiped out by pollution or have decided that we are not here, for example; so communications have to be presumed to be instantaneous-spiritual. Probably we already communicate with extraterrestrials of much higher intelligence and technology because, I believe, they would know God regards every part of the whole of Creation as equal because Creation is absolute love.
Steven Guth suggests that communications with civilizations on distant planets can be done by monitoring plants. Surely thoughts and feelings can be sent out generally and we should get confirmation by observing plant responses. If we just had to talk about what we felt about what we "received" then we would be tied down slower than Morse Code; so by interacting with plants, we can all see whether as a group we have communicated, and move on --- which allows far more complex interactions than primitive "yes yes" or "yes no" efforts.
A Biography of Steven Guth is at http://www.kheper.net/authors/Steven.html
Other webpages for Steven Guth include:
Steven Guth and David Beale have discussed many probable topics to add to this web-page and related pages. Steven's email today (17th May 2011) summarizes a couple of conversations:
The book [The Secret Life Of Plants 1973, by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird] mentions the possibility of using plants as aerials to "chat" with civilizations on other planets. The radio telescope idea assumes too little and too much .... also light communications speed is too slow over distances.
Now with the analyzer it should be possible to see if we can tune into others.
I suspect that neolith people did this ... and certainly my experience (as described in the Message Stone book) in the crevice ... indicates that this is possible.
Maybe should put something about this (using a quote from the Secret Life of Plants book to kick it off) on the web site.
Albert instructed Steven calmingly, slowly, “You dream, stay here in place. I help. You meet Clever Man from here he come, he help. No sleep, keep awake, remember.” Steven did as he was told. As his meditation deepened, he heard a roaring sound - bullroarers. There were two, one on each side of the crevice high above. Albert’s soft, slow voice came to Steven,
“Roarers bring small spirit out of ground … keep trouble away. Mia Mia stop big dangerous spirit come here. Mia Mia like dance, dance - you see?” Steven sensed rather than saw wisps of coloured movement, like haze coming out of the leafy, damp ground. The pair sat, after a while said, “Spirit man come now, I see him, I help you see.” Steven sensed (or was it saw) whisps of light come out of the holes in the cliff face and assemble themselves into the shape of a man.
It (or was it he) stood about 8 metres away. Clay marked his body, he had big eyes and no mouth. The man walked towards the pair sitting on the ground. Albert’s voice said, “Wandjina, come to unwrap your stone, I help, keep eyes closed, sit, sit, sit.” An indigo ball of light floated in front of Steven’s closed eyes. He felt that he had to look at the pattern on top of the stone, a strong feeling, almost a command.
Just at that point, Albert’s voice entered Steven’s head,
“Slowly open your eyes, look at stone. Keep picture in head, close your
eyes, look at stone, close eyes, keep picture in head, shut eyes, keep
lines in head.”
|Steven felt himself switched on, like a mobile phone searching for a signal. His body wasn’t there, only an open feeling. The indigo light disappeared. It had left the image of a strange tree in Steven’s mind; a cauliflower, a cauliflower tree or was it a coral tree?||Somehow, Steven realized that the trees around him were using Steven to send a message about leaves, moving tips, pliable pieces moving at the ends of stems, softer pieces that shake in wind.||Steven realized that he, somehow, had received a message and sent out an idea. Everything in images, it had taken what seemed like a minute. Yet surely it was longer, maybe much longer. The message came from far away. So ideas are shared throughout the cosmos.||
Somewhere out there, far away, was a planet that grew cauliflower trees. Maybe now it would grow leaves, someday. So that is how progress, how evolution happened; ideas were shared forward and backwards across the cosmos.
Steven heard Albert’s voice say, “All over, now.” Albert took hold of Steven’s left arm and pulled the sleeve back from his wrist. As Steven was opening his eyes he saw Albert flick a cigarette lighter into flame under his arm just below where he wore his wrist watch. Steven still spaced out from meditation felt no pain, but his eyes saw what was happening and asked, “Why, what are you doing to me?” Albert put the lighter back in a pocket and said in a soft calm voice, “That to make you not forget your dream story. Body help you remember this time, this place – you always be here.” Steven, still unaware of the burn on his arm, leant back against the tree and tried to pull himself together. In a little while he said, “Did you give me the pictures? Did you hypnotize me?” As Albert wrapped the stone he said, “Dreaming picture true, we share same picture."
Steven sat, looking at the sun spots moving over the ground as the wind blew the leaves high overhead. “Albert, did you or Wandjina unwrap the stone and what happened then?” “Your stone special, it make very easy for you to visit Sky Being. Clever Men visit sky to get wisdom. Learn how to do this take me many years, nights in desert watching stars, waiting watching for message to come.” 115 116 “It was all so strange, did you see the cauliflower tree?” “Maybe no, I see trees here talk to far away in sky through you. You do good.” “Will that happen every time when I use the stone?” “Each place different. This a place for stars. Crevice in cliff make it easy, thin line of stars in sky. When new star come over top of rocks, it shines into your mind to make message come in clear, easy.” “And if I go to another sacred site?” “Not same, different, When stone working, easy for you to go to other Dreamtime places.
A website has pdf's of the English
translation of Message Stone
with related pdf's and articles.
Free eBook versions are here. A higher-definition download is 15.8MB; the slightly less clear pdf is 5.1MB.
The MessageStone.net website pdfs, for download, are A4/letter book size. The book includes communications with spirits with bodies different from us, somewhat similar to relating to plants, but with a huge difference: Plants are benign, beautiful...other spirits are not necessarily so...The book describes Steven's experiences with such pseudo/almost-living things, relative to the German Nazi Era. The insights into, let's say "The Underworld" are relevant today, considering the world-wide behavior of governments and other death-profiting systems.
Flowers and buds in the early evening. These buds flowered on the same day as the other photo of flowering bulbs
Hilda's tree in Autumn
Sunlight Autumn Golden Leaves